From: "ANUJA.ANILKUMAR.SONALKER" Subject: pursuing my undergrads Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:22:08 +0000 (IST) This is an important query! In fact one of the major reasons for joining lab-robotics. I am pursuing my undergrads in Instrumentation/Control & want to go in for a further MS. So far I'm thinking of Intelligent Systems/Robotics/Control Syatems. Can anyone here highlight the scope of these subjects in the near future or are they just dead subjects. My second option is Telecommunications/Signal Processing. Please help ANUJA (A confused student) From: "Thomas J. Baiga" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: pursuing my undergrads Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 23:45:33 -0800 I am pursuing my undergrads in Instrumentation/Control & want to go in for a further MS. So far I'm thinking of Intelligent Systems/Robotics/Control Systems. Can anyone here highlight the scope of these subjects in the near future or are they just dead subjects. My second option is Telecommunications/Signal Processing. Please help ANUJA (A confused student) Anuja, Definitely not dead subjects. In fact, I expect the market for cross-trained engineers to grow significantly in the next few years. The program that your looking for(based upon your interests in Intelligent Systems/Robotics/Control Systems) is called MECHATRONICS. This is an interdisciplinary program combining research in smart materials, robotics, intelligent systems, and control systems. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (Troy, NY) created one of the first programs of this kind. Please refer to http://www.eng.rpi.edu/ and look at Professor Craig's research. Good luck, and when you finish your MS, please send your CV to our HR Dept., we're always looking for talented engineers. Tom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas J. Baiga President and Chief Executive Officer Charybdis Technologies, Inc. 5925 Priestly Drive Suite 101 Carlsbad, California 92008 Phone: 760.930.6100 Fax: 760.930.6099 tjbaiga@SPAMFOIL.charybtech.com http://www.charybtech.com/ Hello Todd, I sense that there maybe a story behind some of your comments. Could you mention your hesitation in regards to the CCS Packard 384 tip device. Recently, I have been talking with CCS Packard and I am very interested in learning all that I can about this device. Further, any comments that you might have regarding the MiniTrak would be interesting to hear. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Todd, HMR/US [mailto:Todd.Smith@SPAMFOIL.hmrag.com] Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:36 AM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Parallel Pipetting of micro-liter volumes --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hello John Celani. How are you? I am curious about this Apricot Design pipettor you posted about on the Lab Automation board. Is it the same one they displayed at lab automation last year? I recall that pipettor being a stand alone Hydra look alike that really wasn't suited to HTS automation. Any info you could forward would be appreciated. We are looking for a known 384 pipettor with 1536 capability that is HTS automation friendly. Its really too bad that CCS and Beckman had to screw up their relationship so bad that the CCS 384 head will never see a marriage with the Beckman Software or a Multimek. Most likely I'll see you in Palm Springs. Cheers, Todd Smith Biology / Chemistry Automation Selectide, a subsidiary of Hoechst Marion Roussel 1580 East Hanley Boulevard Tucson, Arizona 85737 (520) 544-5884 Phone (520) 575-1439Fax todd.smith@SPAMFOIL.hmrag.com -----Original Message----- From: jcelani [mailto:jcelani@SPAMFOIL.ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 1:54 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Parallel Pipetting of micro-liter volumes --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Apricot Designs makes dispensing units which have small footprints. They have a 384 well head which can do up to 1536. They can be found on the web and are made in Monrovia, CA. Their head engineer can address the limits for less than a ul. ph (626) 256-6088 John Celani -----Original Message----- From: martin.daffertshofer@SPAMFOIL.evotec.de To: Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 2:59 PM Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Parallel Pipetting of micro-liter volumes >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics Discussion >--------------------- > > >Does anybody gathered experiences of high throughput pipetting / dispensing >in the micro liter domain. >I want to use devices like Robbins Hydra or JOBI-Well 384/1536 to transfer >(> 384 in parallel) less >than a micro liter of Water/DMSO mixtures (0-100%) from plate to plate. > >Any information would be appreciated, > >Martin Daffertshofer. > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. Alternatively, click on this link mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe From: "Kevin Olsen" Subject: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:38:05 -0500 Dear Colleagues, I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and "Clockwise From 4". Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) 1 | 3 2 | 4 Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) 1 | 2 3 | 4 Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): 4 | 1 3 | 2 Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software package. Thank you, Kevin OIsen Robotics & Automation Wyeth Ayerst Research Pearl River, NY From: "Goering, Matt" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 10:14:25 -0800 Kevin, We use a Multimek to condense 96 to 384. We programmed it to use the "standard pattern", but it can easily do any pattern you like. -Matt > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Olsen [SMTP:OLSENKK@SPAMFOIL.war.wyeth.com] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 8:38 AM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > Dear Colleagues, > > I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well > pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 > well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and "Clockwise From 4". > > Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) > > 1 | 3 > 2 | 4 > > Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) > > 1 | 2 > 3 | 4 > > Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): > > 4 | 1 > 3 | 2 > > Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? > > Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the > operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software > package. > > Thank you, > > Kevin OIsen > Robotics & Automation > Wyeth Ayerst Research > Pearl River, NY > From: "Gail M. Lachs" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:29:49 EST Dear Kevin, Matrix's PlateMate 96/384 pipetting system, when used in the manual mode, will index in the "Standard Z Pattern." When using the PC software, however, the enduser is able to create their own indexing pattern. The software allows access to all quadrants of a 384 well plate at any point during a program. I hope this information helps you. Please feel free to contact me if I can provide any additional assistance. Kind regards, Gail M. Lachs Automation Sales Coordinator Matrix Technologies Corporation Hudson, NH USA (800) 345-0206 ext 151 glachs@SPAMFOIL.matrixtechcorp.com > Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 11:38:05 -0500 > From: "Kevin Olsen" > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List) > Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? > Reply-to: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > Dear Colleagues, > > I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and > > Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) > > 1 | 3 > 2 | 4 > > Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) > > 1 | 2 > 3 | 4 > > Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): > > 4 | 1 > 3 | 2 > > Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? > > Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software package. > > Thank you, > > Kevin OIsen > Robotics & Automation > Wyeth Ayerst Research > Pearl River, NY > > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion > To subscribe to this list, please send an e-mail message to > discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just SUBSCRIBE as the subject. > Alternatively, click on this link: > mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=subscribe > > From: Jackbonham@SPAMFOIL.aol.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 13:21:08 EST The Titertek MAP-C default pattern for dispense is counter clockwise from the upper left. 1 / 4 2 / 3 Diagonal motion (N & Z) requires more distance to travel and simultaneous X and Y activity by the motors. Jack Bonham Titertek From: "Samir M. Dandekar" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:47:59 -0600 With the Tecan Genesis we have programmed patterns such that in a 384 well plate we have the following quadrant maps: -Quadrant 1: odd columns (1,3,5,...) and odd rows (A,C,E,...) -Quadrant 2: odd columns (1,3,5,...) and even rows (B,D,F,...) -Quadrant 3: even columns (2,4,6,...) and odd rows (A,C,E,...) -Quadrant 4: even columns (2,4,6,...) and even rows (B,D,F,...) Hope this helps -Samir Samir M. Dandekar The Technology Integration Group, LLC http://www.ttig.com 919-461-2357 phone 919-461-2358 fax > -----Original Message----- > From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On > Behalf Of Kevin Olsen > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 10:38 AM > To: Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List > Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? > > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > Dear Colleagues, > > I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to > 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group > divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", > and "Clockwise From 4". > > Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) > > 1 | 3 > 2 | 4 > > Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) > > 1 | 2 > 3 | 4 > > Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): > > 4 | 1 > 3 | 2 > > Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? > > Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be > altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in > your standard software package. > > Thank you, > > Kevin OIsen > Robotics & Automation > Wyeth Ayerst Research > Pearl River, NY > > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion > To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to > discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. > Alternatively, click on this link > mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe > > From: Andy Zaayenga Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 14:39:32 -0500 Kevin, The TekCel Assay TekBench defaults to ( Z ), although the software allows the operator to select different patterns. 1 | 2 3 | 4 Andy Zaayenga TekCel Corporation Mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.tekcel.com Web Site: http://tekcel.com At 11:38 AM 12/3/1999 -0500, Kevin Olsen wrote to Andy: >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics Discussion >--------------------- >Dear Colleagues, > >I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and "Clockwise From 4". > >Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) > >1 | 3 >2 | 4 > >Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) > >1 | 2 >3 | 4 > >Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): > >4 | 1 >3 | 2 > >Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? > >Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software package. > >Thank you, > >Kevin OIsen >Robotics & Automation >Wyeth Ayerst Research >Pearl River, NY From: droark@SPAMFOIL.ccspackard.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 15:13:39 -0500 The CCS PlateTrak has the following quadrant designation: With the plate motion on the conveyor occurring on the short side (Portrait) of the plate and A1 located at the front left position. The 96 quadrants are defined as follows: Plate A1 - Quadrant 1 Plate A2 - Quadrant 2 Plate B1 - Quadrant 3 Plate B2 - Quadrant 4 This corresponds with the "Backwards N" format described below. The TrakPrep software allows the user to define alternative patterns - i.e. "Standard Pattern" ( Z ); Clockwise from 4; Regards, Dan Roark droark@SPAMFOIL.ccspackard.com 310/257-6911 Joy Concepcion 12/03/99 10:31 AM To: Dan Roark/PI/US/PBC@SPAMFOIL.PBC cc: Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? ---------------------- Forwarded by Joy Concepcion/CC/US/PBC on 12/03/99 10:29 PM --------------------------- Jim Floeckher 12/03/99 09:59 AM To: Nance Hall/PI/US/PBC@SPAMFOIL.PBC, Joy Concepcion/CC/US/PBC@SPAMFOIL.PBC cc: Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? Care to offer up our CCS patterns? To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List) cc: (bcc: Jim Floeckher/PI/US/PBC) Person From/To: From: "Kevin Olsen" Date: 12/03/99 04:38:05 PM GMT Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Dear Colleagues, I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and "Clockwise From 4". Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) 1 | 3 2 | 4 Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) 1 | 2 3 | 4 Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): 4 | 1 3 | 2 Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software package. Thank you, Kevin OIsen Robotics & Automation Wyeth Ayerst Research Pearl River, NY --- Lab-Robotics Discussion To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. Alternatively, click on this link mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe The Tomtec Quadra96 formatting sequence is clockwise: 1 | 2 4 | 3 but the operator has complete program control on where to go. SO I guess there was one more pattern. Stein A. Roaldset VP Technical Sales Tomtec Inc. stein@SPAMFOIL.tomtec.com 203-281-6790 -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Olsen To: Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 9:55 AM Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96 to 384 - Which direction? --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Dear Colleagues, I am creating a summary sheet of all of the commonly used 96 to 384 well pipetting patterns. There are three ways that our group divides the 96 well into four quadrants, the "Z", backwards "N", and "Clockwise >From 4". Default Cyberlab C-400 workstation: ( Backwards N ) 1 | 3 2 | 4 Pearl River HTS laboratory "Standard Pattern" ( Z ) 1 | 2 3 | 4 Zymark Rapid Plate indexer ( Clockwise from 4 ): 4 | 1 3 | 2 Are there any others? Does anyone have a strong preference for any? Note to vendor members: If your pipettor's pattern can be altered by the operator, please indicate the default pattern in your standard software package. Thank you, Kevin OIsen Robotics & Automation Wyeth Ayerst Research Pearl River, NY --- Lab-Robotics Discussion The Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List is a feature of the Laboratory Robotics Interest Group, www.lab-robotics.org. From: "Kevin Olsen" Subject: Thanks to all who replied Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 17:35:25 -0500 Dear Colleagues, Thank you to everyone who has responded to my inquiry over transfer patterns. The purpose of my question was to prepare our compound dispensary for receiving plates that were produced on different systems. One of our projects is creating software that will automatically combine the plate maps from four plates into one. The only problem is that we did not know how many different combinations of quadrants we can anticipate. Thanks again, Kevin Olsen From: MJCatPAA@SPAMFOIL.aol.com Subject: Zymark Twister Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 02:36:55 EST Dear All, I wonder if any of you have the set of serial commands to control a Zymark Twister. I want to expand the working capabilities of our Twister, but can't work out the method used to calculate the checksum at the end of each command. Any Ideas out there ? Regards Malcolm Crook PAA UK From: Jones David Subject: Pipetting Cells into 96/384 well Microplates Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 11:27:21 -0500 Hello, The Multidrop is available in both a 96 well only, as well as a 96/384 well version. The 96/384 well version has been available for about two years, and is being used by numerous institutions for the dispensing of cell suspensions. One institution is even heparinizing the tubing and dispensing whole animal blood! -As long as the source vessel is continually orbitally shaken and the plates are processed in a continuous run, results have been excellent. All components of the system which contact the cell suspension liquid are autoclavable, and dispensing cassettes can be swapped on the system in less than two minutes. This allows for rapid switching between reagents. The Multidrop 96/384 can also be paired with our robotic plate stacker, which allows the continuous processing of up to eighty 96 well plates, or up to 120 Labsystems low-profile 384 well plates. Please call if you require further information, a demo, or pricing. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< David W. Jones Marketing Product Manager LABSYSTEMS, North America 1-800-522-7763 david.jones@SPAMFOIL.thermobio.com From: Kerry Armour Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Zymark Twister Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:26:49 -0500 Malcolm, You can obtain this information directly from Zymark. We've got an Integrator's Kit that will give you command codes and OCX applets to use in customizing the Twister. The UK office can be reached at:1928-7112448, ask to speak with Mr. Nigel Gaunt -----Original Message----- From: MJCatPAA@SPAMFOIL.aol.com [mailto:MJCatPAA@SPAMFOIL.aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 2:37 AM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Zymark Twister --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Dear All, I wonder if any of you have the set of serial commands to control a Zymark Twister. I want to expand the working capabilities of our Twister, but can't work out the method used to calculate the checksum at the end of each command. Any Ideas out there ? Regards Malcolm Crook PAA UK From: "Brunk,Donald H" Subject: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 09:53:58 -0500 Dear Colleagues, I'm interested in techniques and equipment that have been developed for the handling and recovery of solids. In our particular application we want to treat a powder with a solution, rinse the powder, remove most of the liquid, get it at least partially dry, and then put it into another well. The 96-well solid phase extraction plates let us sort of do what we want, but there's that problem of how you get the stuff out at the end. If anyone's developed any nifty tricks or gadgets, I'd like to hear about them. I'm not as concerned about handling the dry powder at the front end. I've already seen the Zinsser/Rosys system, and am aware of Bohdan's screw feeders and the AutoDose system. Don Brunk Qualicon Inc. donald.h.brunk@SPAMFOIL.qualicon.com digest messages at the specified interval. From: "David Allen" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 07:43:57 -0800 > 96-well solid phase extraction plates let us sort of do what we want, but > there's that problem of how you get the stuff out at the end. > > If anyone's developed any nifty tricks or gadgets, I'd like to hear about > them. > what you may want to look at are pipette tip filters. these are small filter units that fit on the end of pipette tips for filtering solutions as they're aspirated. the filters can then be removed and the filtrate dispensed. in your application, they can be picked up by the needle and vacuum used to suck up the solid from the well. when over the destination well, either air or a small amount of liquid can be used to flush the solids off of the filter. not all of the solids will be picked up and not all of it will be flushed off. if you can accommodate those limitations, they may be a cheap, quick, and easy solution. da From: petek@SPAMFOIL.pharmacop.com (Kieselbach, Peter) Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 12:16:11 -0500 Don: Have you tried centrifugal transfer? You'd probably need a means of locating the source and receiving plates face to face, but unless the powder has adhered to the source plate, I'd think you would get pretty good recovery. Of course the well locations would get mirrored in the process. Pete --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Dear Colleagues, I'm interested in techniques and equipment that have been developed for the handling and recovery of solids. In our particular application we want to treat a powder with a solution, rinse the powder, remove most of the liquid, get it at least partially dry, and then put it into another well. The 96-well solid phase extraction plates let us sort of do what we want, but there's that problem of how you get the stuff out at the end. If anyone's developed any nifty tricks or gadgets, I'd like to hear about them. I'm not as concerned about handling the dry powder at the front end. I've already seen the Zinsser/Rosys system, and am aware of Bohdan's screw feeders and the AutoDose system. Don Brunk Qualicon Inc. donald.h.brunk@SPAMFOIL.qualicon.com digest messages at the specified interval. --- Lab-Robotics Discussion The LRIG also maintains a mailing list for laboratory automation careers. The Lab-Robotics Careers Mailing List is for posting your curriculum vitae or career opportunities in Laboratory Automation. To subscribe to the Careers list, send a message to careers@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just "Subscribe" (no quotes) in the subject. _______________________________________________ "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine." Peter Kieselbach Pharmacopeia 609.452.3788 From: paul_higginson@SPAMFOIL.sandwich.pfizer.com Subject: Glass vials. Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:41:01 -0000 I am trying to source disposable glass vials of approx. 40-50mm length by 10-12mm id. Ideally they will be of test tube style with no screw thread, curved shoulder or rim. Anyone know a source ? Regards, Paul Higginson. LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this e-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorised and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately. Pfizer Limited is registered in England under No. 526209 with its registered office at Ramsgate Road, Sandwich, Kent CT13 9NJ From: gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 14:00:48 -0500 Hi Don, Yes we do have some nifty tricks up our sleeves. Being a vendor I will be careful not to give the impression that we might actually be trying to sell you something. Be that as it may, Whatman Polyfitronics has a number of options for you to consider. Before any recommendations can be made please answer the following questions: 1) What is the micron size of the powder? This will dictate the type of filter membrane used. 2) What is the volume of your sample? This will tell us if you need either a shallow or a deep well plate. 3) What do you plan to do with the "solution treated powder" when it is transferred into another well? It may be possible to do all your assay in one filter plate. i.e. hydrophobic or solvent retentive membrane qualities. 4) Do you plan to use vacuum or centrifuge for wash steps? This affects filter flow rates and the need, or otherwise, for filtrate collection plates. Regards, Grahame. "Brunk,Donald H" on 12/07/99 09:53:58 AM To: brunk@SPAMFOIL.Qualicon.email.dupont.com cc: (bcc: Grahame Ledson/Whatman) Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Dear Colleagues, I'm interested in techniques and equipment that have been developed for the handling and recovery of solids. In our particular application we want to treat a powder with a solution, rinse the powder, remove most of the liquid, get it at least partially dry, and then put it into another well. The 96-well solid phase extraction plates let us sort of do what we want, but there's that problem of how you get the stuff out at the end. If anyone's developed any nifty tricks or gadgets, I'd like to hear about them. I'm not as concerned about handling the dry powder at the front end. I've already seen the Zinsser/Rosys system, and am aware of Bohdan's screw feeders and the AutoDose system. Don Brunk Qualicon Inc. donald.h.brunk@SPAMFOIL.qualicon.com digest messages at the specified interval. --- Lab-Robotics Discussion To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. Alternatively, click on this link mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe From: "Brunk,Donald H" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:52:59 -0500 Here are some answers: 1) The minimum size is around 50 microns 2) I'm not sure of the volume, but the weight of powder is 100 to 200 mg, depending on in-process losses 3) The solution-treated powder will be baked in an oven at temperatures higher than plastics can withstand. The final assay will take place on a custom instrument we already own. Hint: it's not a standard cartesian liquid handling robot. 4) We're planning on using a pressure differential, either from vacuum or positive pressure. Hope this gives you enough information Don -----Original Message----- (snip) Before any recommendations can be made please answer the following questions: 1) What is the micron size of the powder? This will dictate the type of filter membrane used. 2) What is the volume of your sample? This will tell us if you need either a shallow or a deep well plate. 3) What do you plan to do with the "solution treated powder" when it is transferred into another well? It may be possible to do all your assay in one filter plate. i.e. hydrophobic or solvent retentive membrane qualities. 4) Do you plan to use vacuum or centrifuge for wash steps? This affects filter flow rates and the need, or otherwise, for filtrate collection plates. (snip) From: "Napolitano, Christopher" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Glass vials. Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:50:17 -0500 Paul, Depending on your use, some manufacturers will custom make your required piece of glassware in bulk. Check with Kontes or IChem. They may be able to help you out. Chris Napolitano > ---------- > From: > paul_higginson@SPAMFOIL.sandwich.pfizer.com[SMTP:paul_higginson@SPAMFOIL.sandwich.pfizer.com > ] > Reply To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 12:41 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Glass vials. > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > I am trying to source disposable glass vials of approx. 40-50mm length by > 10-12mm id. Ideally they will be of test tube style with no screw thread, > curved shoulder or rim. > > Anyone know a source ? > > Regards, > > Paul Higginson. > From: s Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Glass vials. (fwd) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:04:31 -0800 Dear Paul, Please let me know what exact size you need for the vial, and we can get it, there are some special methods we have developed for glassware. This includes for Nitrogen evaporation, since we develop methods to speed up sample preparation work with N-vap's, the 100 position, single well plate, and 3-well plate. The single well plate format goes for around $1,900.00 dollars. Best Regards, Steve Ellis Thomson Instrument Company http://www.hplc1.com/ e-mail:folks@SPAMFOIL.hplc1.com > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 17:41:01 -0000 > From: paul_higginson@SPAMFOIL.sandwich.pfizer.com > Reply-To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > To: Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List > Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Glass vials. > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > I am trying to source disposable glass vials of approx. 40-50mm length by > 10-12mm id. Ideally they will be of test tube style with no screw thread, > curved shoulder or rim. > > Anyone know a source ? > > Regards, > > Paul Higginson. > From: Lance Larka Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Handling and recovery of solids Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:14:16 +0000 A possible way to get more of the dry solid off of the HDPE frit is to add a sonicator or tapping device to your probe head. If your instrument has a TTL or Digital I/O control, it could be used to trigger such a device. Hope this helps and/or makes some sort of sense. Cheers, Lance ************************************************** Lance A. Larka Research Scientist Operon Technologies, Inc. 1000 Atlantic Ave. Suite 108 Alameda, CA 94501 Ph. 510.865.8644 ex. 152 vm. 224 Fx. 561.828.8327 E-mail: llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com HTTP://www.operon.com/ "Science answers the question you asked, Not the question you thought you asked." ************************************************** David Allen wrote: > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > > > 96-well solid phase extraction plates let us sort of do what we want, but > > there's that problem of how you get the stuff out at the end. > > > > If anyone's developed any nifty tricks or gadgets, I'd like to hear about > > them. > > > > what you may want to look at are pipette tip filters. these are small > filter units that fit on the end of pipette tips for filtering solutions as > they're aspirated. the filters can then be removed and the filtrate > dispensed. in your application, they can be picked up by the needle and > vacuum used to suck up the solid from the well. when over the destination > well, either air or a small amount of liquid can be used to flush the solids > off of the filter. not all of the solids will be picked up and not all of > it will be flushed off. if you can accommodate those limitations, they may > be a cheap, quick, and easy solution. > > da > > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion > To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to > discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. > Alternatively, click on this link > mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe -- From: Anthony Zerlin Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96/384 well plate washers withstack Date: 10 Dec 1999 08:16:22 -0000 Hallo Julie, there are two washers I know wich are frequently used, one is the Embla 384 Washer and the second is the Bio Tek EL 405. both are for 96 and 384 and both can be stacked with the Twister from Zymark with up to 80 plates. You can even use the Twister for other microplate devices if you want as it has interfaces for quite a number. If I am correctly informed the Embla Washer is sold by MDC so aske them for this combination or Bio Tek for the 405. Good luck Anthony Am 30.11.1999 um 18.11 Uhr schrieb Julie Monagle: > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > Hi Suzanne, > > Thanks for the info. I just got off the phone with Sarah Bliven. She is > faxing me a quote for the 96 skan stacker. > > The reason for my request of 96 & 384 with stacking is that most of what > we do is in 96 wells currently, but we would like the ability to > investigate 384 without having to purchase another washer until we know that it > will work for us. The ability to have stacking with both 96 & 384 is a nice > option, because once a user gets used to the stackers they don't want to > be tied to the washer in order to have a 384 well assay. > > At this point it looks like we will have to work with a 96 with stackers > and invest in a 384 when the time is ready. > > Thanks, > > Julie Monagle > Neurogen Corporation > > Suzanne Martinez wrote: > >--------------------- > >Lab-Robotics Discussion > >--------------------- > >Julie, > >MDC does not have a 96/384 stacker yet(only a 96 well stacker), but I > would be > >interested to find out what your application is and whether you think > this > >is a typical trend in your area of science. Also, I'd be interested to > know when > >you are in need of this washer. > >Thank you. > > > > > >Regards, > > > >Suzanne Martinez > >Skatron Product Manager > >Molecular Devices Corporation > > > > > >>>> Julie Monagle 11/22/99 11:20AM >>> > >--------------------- > >Lab-Robotics Discussion > >--------------------- > >Hello all, > > > >I would be interested to hear from users, any reccomendations for plate > >washers with stackers (96 & 384 compatible). > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > > > >Julie Monagle > >Neurogen Corporation > > > > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion > To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to > discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. > Alternatively, click on this link > mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe > ___________________________________________________________ TopMail - Jetzt kostenlos anmelden - http://www.topmail.de *** com!online: Jetzt 2 Ausgaben kostenlos testen unter *** ------- http://www.com-online.de/service/index6.html ------ Hello, I was wondering if anyone has access to the command set for controlling the Biotek EL 404 washer ? The user manual provides some information but it is rather cryptic. Apparently, the instrument accepts string/decimal commands but the command set is entirely in HEX. I would appreciate comments from anyone has developed remote interface for this instrument. thank you dinesh From: "Shawn Smith" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96/384 well plate washers withstack Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:10:10 -0800 Hello Anthony, The two washers you mentioned can be operated using the PlateCrane from Hudson Control Group. The PlateCrane can store up to 240 plates using 96 or 384. The PlateCrane can also be integrated into another device at the same time. The PlateCrane creates a nice work cell with multiple devices connected at the same time. Washers, readers and liquid handling equipment. Added Information Shawn Smith Regional Sales Manager Hudson Control Group -----Original Message----- From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On Behalf Of Anthony Zerlin Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 12:16 AM To: Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: 96/384 well plate washers withstack --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hallo Julie, there are two washers I know wich are frequently used, one is the Embla 384 Washer and the second is the Bio Tek EL 405. both are for 96 and 384 and both can be stacked with the Twister from Zymark with up to 80 plates. You can even use the Twister for other microplate devices if you want as it has interfaces for quite a number. If I am correctly informed the Embla Washer is sold by MDC so aske them for this combination or Bio Tek for the 405. Good luck Anthony From: "Ope Odusan" Subject: Interface/Driver for Zymark Robotic System Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:23:50 -0500 Hi, I have to integrate Tecan Polarion and Mol Dev Gemini Reader into Zymark Robotic systems using the PCS software. I am wondering if anybody has done this before. The idea is to use the Zymark PCS scheduler software to control the readers. I have already contacted both Tecan and Zymark. If anyone knows how or where I can get information on how to do this and can pass the info to me, I will appreciate it. Also, any vendor or individual out there that have experience doing this or have done this can also contact me. The Tecan Polarion we have uses an Excel Interface to control the reader and the Gemini has the SoftMax Pro. 3.0 software. Thanks for your help. Ope Odusan Research Scientist II HTS Robotics and Automation Wyeth-Ayerst Research Phone 914-732-3632 Email odusano@SPAMFOIL.war.wyeth.com -----oo--> Always Working On "Drugs"------oo--> From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics Discussion) Subject: Thank you for subscribing to Lab-Robotics Discussion Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:04:34 -0500 Thank you for subscribing to the Lab-Robotics Discussion mailing list. This message is sent once every 30 days to remind you of the commands which Arrow (our mailing list software) understands. When you reply to a message in a forum like this, it is generally considered "netiquette" to trim the original message down to just the portion you are replying to (if possible). Also, if you are replying to a string of messages, the same principle applies. The aim is to reduce the clutter for the other list members while preserving the sense of the message. 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Andy Zaayenga Moderator, The Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org web site: https://www.lab-robotics.org --- Age of List in Days 444 Number of Subscribers 825 Total Number of Messages Posted to List 1128 Average Number of Messages Posted Per Day 2 From: "Pak, Rob" Subject: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 17:58:58 -0800 Hi, Our group - about 7-10 people; assay development/HTS group - is trying to implement electronic lab-notebook in order to reduce never-ending documentation problems in HTS settings. Could anybody tell me a good place to start? Any vendors, experiences, internet info., ect. on electronic notebook will be very helpful. Thanks! Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com From: kato_akira@SPAMFOIL.yoshitomi.co.jp Subject: Re:Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:11:38 +0900 Hi, Check out the following URLs: http://lims.scimag.com/ Vendor list of Lab. Information Management System http://www.censa.org/ Collaborative Electronic Notebook System Association Hope this could help you. Yours, Ken >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics Discussion >--------------------- > > Hi, > > Our group - about 7-10 people; assay development/HTS group - is > trying to implement electronic lab-notebook in order > to reduce never-ending documentation problems in HTS settings. > Could anybody tell me a good place to start? Any vendors, > experiences, internet info., ect. on electronic notebook > will be very helpful. Thanks! > > Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com > > From: Colin.Cook@SPAMFOIL.nre.vic.gov.au Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:02:47 +1000 Here are a few sites that will get you started: Collaborative electronic notebook systems association http://www.censa.org/ HP Notebooks http://www.hp.com/notebooks/home/eng/index.htm PC Magazine Online http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/pcmag.htm Colin Cook State Chemistry Laboratory Australia >Hi, > > Our group - about 7-10 people; assay development/HTS group - is > trying to implement electronic lab-notebook in order > to reduce never-ending documentation problems in HTS settings. > Could anybody tell me a good place to start? Any vendors, > experiences, internet info., ect. on electronic notebook > will be very helpful. Thanks! > > Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com From: "Ashton, Mark" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:22:32 -0000 Try some software called Documentum. Not sure who the supply is. -----Original Message----- From: Pak, Rob [mailto:Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com] Sent: 15 December 1999 01:59 To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hi, Our group - about 7-10 people; assay development/HTS group - is trying to implement electronic lab-notebook in order to reduce never-ending documentation problems in HTS settings. Could anybody tell me a good place to start? Any vendors, experiences, internet info., ect. on electronic notebook will be very helpful. Thanks! Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com From: "Lance A. Larka" Subject: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 20:42:24 -0800 Hi All, I'm trying to find a source of miniature solenoid actuators with a stroke length of 9mm. If you know of a supplier I would appreciate it if you would send me the name/contact information. Thank you, Lance ************************************************** Lance A. Larka Research Scientist Operon Technologies, Inc. 1000 Atlantic Ave. Suite 108 Alameda, CA 94501 Ph. 510.865.8644 ext. 107 Fx. 510.865.4314 E-mail: llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com HTTP://www.operon.com/ "Science answers the question you asked, Not the question you thought you asked." ************************************************** From: "Pak, Rob" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:00:23 -0800 Thanks guys for all the great info! Looks like I can start somewhere now. I'll let you guys know what I find about. thanks again, Rob :-) rob.pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com -----Original Message----- From: kato_akira@SPAMFOIL.yoshitomi.co.jp [mailto:kato_akira@SPAMFOIL.yoshitomi.co.jp] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 4:12 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Electronic Lab Notebooks? Sensitivity: Personal --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hi, Check out the following URLs: http://lims.scimag.com/ Vendor list of Lab. Information Management System http://www.censa.org/ Collaborative Electronic Notebook System Association Hope this could help you. Yours, Ken >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics Discussion >--------------------- > > Hi, > > Our group - about 7-10 people; assay development/HTS group - is > trying to implement electronic lab-notebook in order > to reduce never-ending documentation problems in HTS settings. > Could anybody tell me a good place to start? Any vendors, > experiences, internet info., ect. on electronic notebook > will be very helpful. Thanks! > > Rob.Pak@SPAMFOIL.maxygen.com > > From: Leonard Di Sera Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:24:54 -0700 Lance: You might look into the following companies: Densitron (www.densitron.com) Possible contact: Eric Newiger 562-941-5000 Shindengen America, Inc. 411 Business Center Drive, Suite 112 Mt. Prospect, IL 847-827-7100 I don't know if they're products are "miniature" but, if not, they may point you at relevant companies. Lenny Lance A. Larka wrote: > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics Discussion > --------------------- > Hi All, > I'm trying to find a source of miniature solenoid actuators with a stroke length > of 9mm. If you know of a supplier I would appreciate it if you would send me the > name/contact information. > > Thank you, > Lance > > ************************************************** > Lance A. Larka > Research Scientist > Operon Technologies, Inc. > 1000 Atlantic Ave. Suite 108 > Alameda, CA 94501 > > Ph. 510.865.8644 ext. 107 > Fx. 510.865.4314 > E-mail: llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com > HTTP://www.operon.com/ > > "Science answers the question you asked, > Not the question you thought you asked." > > ************************************************** > > --- Lab-Robotics Discussion > To subscribe to this list, please send an e-mail message to > discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just SUBSCRIBE as the subject. > Alternatively, click on this link: > mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=subscribe -- _____________________________________________ Leonard Di Sera Fiore Automation, Inc. 6491 S. 2425 E. Salt Lake City, Utah 84121 phn: 801.942.8552 fax: 801.942.8552 WWW URL: _____________________________________________ From: Chance Elliott Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:30:44 -0800 Hi Lance, try Bimba @SPAMFOIL. http://www.bimba.com/ they have a zillion solenoid actuators. Chance Elliott Automation Development Specialist Cytokinetics Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Lance A. Larka [mailto:llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 8:42 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hi All, I'm trying to find a source of miniature solenoid actuators with a stroke length of 9mm. If you know of a supplier I would appreciate it if you would send me the name/contact information. Thank you, Lance ************************************************** Lance A. Larka Research Scientist Operon Technologies, Inc. 1000 Atlantic Ave. Suite 108 Alameda, CA 94501 Ph. 510.865.8644 ext. 107 Fx. 510.865.4314 E-mail: llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com HTTP://www.operon.com/ "Science answers the question you asked, Not the question you thought you asked." ************************************************** --- Lab-Robotics Discussion To be removed from this list, please send an e-mail message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. Alternatively, click on this link mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org?subject=unsubscribe From: "Brunk,Donald H" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:50:04 -0500 A quick check in Thomas Register reveals 41 companies listed as manufacturers of miniature solenoids. You can access the Thomas Register at http://www.thomasregister.com . At the top of their list is Ledex, and you can go to their solenoid website at http://www.ledex.com/solenoids_actuators/ . Don Brunk Senior Development Engineer Qualicon/DuPont -----Original Message----- From: Lance A. Larka [mailto:llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 11:42 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics Discussion: Searching for miniature solenoid actuators --------------------- Lab-Robotics Discussion --------------------- Hi All, I'm trying to find a source of miniature solenoid actuators with a stroke length of 9mm. If you know of a supplier I would appreciate it if you would send me the name/contact information. Thank you, Lance ************************************************** Lance A. Larka Research Scientist Operon Technologies, Inc. 1000 Atlantic Ave. Suite 108 Alameda, CA 94501 Ph. 510.865.8644 ext. 107 Fx. 510.865.4314 E-mail: llarka@SPAMFOIL.operon.com HTTP://www.operon.com/ "Science answers the question you asked, Not the question you thought you asked." **************************************************