From: "OBPW" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: A 384 Well Mathematical Puzzle Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:49:33 -0500 If one could rely on a continuous series of numbers, the solution would be simple. It is the requirement to allow for practically random groups of numbers which requires calling in the cryptographers. In reality, the original premise that a label with all these numbers on it would be longer than the plate is only true if the font size is too large. There is actually room on the short side of a plate to print 4 readable lines of text with 4 numbers (of 5 or even more digits each) for a total of 16 numbers. We design and build custom microplate processing automation systems and use ink jet printers to print directly onto plates without labels as well as applying printed labels. Even with ink jet printers which offer less resolution than printed labels, we can print up to three rows of 6 characters each onto the tabs at the ends of removable 8 way strips for 96 well plates. These tabs only offer about 1/4 square inch of space to print on. Don't wish to spoil the party for Mathematicians but, smaller print also eliminates the need for applying reverse algorithm to decipher numbers. Patrick Gaillard Oyster Bay Pump Works, Inc. prodinfo@SPAMFOIL.obpw.com -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Olsen To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 9:53 AM Subject: Lab-Robotics: A 384 Well Mathematical Puzzle >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Fellow LRIG Members, > >Like many of you we are making 384 well microplates on a routine basis. Most of the 384 well plates have been made by combining aliquots from four 96 well plates. Each 96 well plate has a five digit number (if made internally) or a six digit number (if made by an outside collaborator.) > >For example, suppose we combine aliquots from the following 96 well plates: > >12345 >12346 >12347 >12348 > >The problem is, what do we call the new plate? If we call it 12345-12346-12347-12348, the label will be longer than the plate itself. If we give it a new number entirely, for example 54321, then there is no easy way to reference the original plates. > >So here is the puzzle. Is there a quick algorithm whereby the original four numbers can be combined into one new number? And once this is done, can this new number be readily converted back to the original four numbers? (Using two-dimensional bar code labels is not allowed.) > >The same problem occurs when we make 1536 well plates by combining aliquots from 16, 96 well plates. > >One possible solution was proposed by Bart Zoltan of our Biomedical Engineering department. The new number's first five digits are the ID of the plate with the lowest ID number. The next three digits are the increment from the last plate. Thus in the example cited above, the number of the 384 well plate becomes: > >12345-111 > >It's a really elegant solution because the operator can mentally convert back into the original plate numbers very easily. > >But the problem arises with a set of source plates with more than 9 numbers between any two of them. What happens if a screening laboratory decides that they want to pick any four numbers out of several hundred? > >If the subscribers on this list are unaware of a suitable algorithm, does anyone know of any cryptographers with some free time? > >Thank you, > >Kevin Olsen >Wyeth Ayerst Research >Compound Bank >Pearl River, NY, 10965 > >914-732-3392 > >(This problem is also posted on the LRIG Discussion Web.) > ! >! > > From: "Ernie Woods" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Yttrium Silicate SPA Beads Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:56:35 -0500 Matt, We also used the Multidrop to transport beads from beaker to multiwell plate, and with great success.This was for a pilot manufacturing process. The beads were ~20um silica and (agarose) gel, transported during separate runs. The suspension buffer was water. We played with the specific gravity by adding salt, but results were not worth the effort. We used a liquid to solids ratio of ~75/25 for silica and 50/50 for gel, determined by suspension characteristics. We loaded into single prep columns and 96 and 384 well filter plates. With the 384 plates, we found that a dispense pattern available through PC control yielded better alignment (plate wells to dispense tip) as the weight of the 384 plate with liquid is close to the limit of the conveyor system. We used an impeller to stir the mixture in the beaker (~200-500ml) to keep the solids in suspension, but not spinning so fast as to cause cavitation (aeration) and used a rigid support to hold the inlet tubing assembly along the edge so it wouldn't get mixed up in the blades of the impeller. If the material sat for more than 10-15 seconds in the tubing between plates, we emptied the lines then re-primed and started again. And yes, some material stuck to the walls of the (silicone) tubing, in the beginning, then all 'sites' were taken up and delivery volumes were (very) precise and reproducible. We had a tubing set for each bead type. I feel the rapid plate with 96 channel tips will clog far more frequently than the Multidrop, as we tried similar products during our research and you will need to address the issue of bead suspension in the trough. Good luck. Ernie Woods Hudson Control Group www.hudsoncontrol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: dxs354@SPAMFOIL.psu.edu To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 17:53 Subject: Lab-Robotics: Yttrium Silicate SPA Beads > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > We were using a Labsystems Multidrop. The "solvent" is water, and I believe > the tubing is coated or made of some type of silicon. > > We had two major problems using this instrument. 1) The beads settled > somewhat in between dispensing, causing some columns to get less beads. 2) > The tubing clogged fairly often. > > I would really like to use a Zymark Rapidplate to dispense, but keeping the > beads suspended seems to be the problem there. > > Matt Smicker > HTS Scientist > Rhone-Poulenc Rorer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas J. Baiga > To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 1:39 AM > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Yttrium Silicate SPA Beads > > > > --------------------- > > Lab-Robotics > > --------------------- > > At 10:14 PM 3/29/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >--------------------- > > >Lab-Robotics > > >--------------------- > > >I was curious if anyone has had trouble dispensing a suspension of > yttrium > > >silicate SPA beads? They seem to settle very quickly and stick to > tubing. > > >Are there any satisfactory solutions to this problem? > > > > > >Thanks, > > >Matt > > > > > > > > Dear Matt, > > > > Could you please be a little more specific. Information such as the > method > > of dispensing (what instrumentation, etc.), type and composition of > tubing, > > materials of contact for entire liquid handling procedure, solvent(s), and > > additional specs on the SPA beads. The more info you share, the more > helpful > > replies the various liquid handling guru's around here can offer. > > > > Tom > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thomas J. Baiga > > President and Chief Executive Officer > > > > Charybdis Technologies, Inc. > > 5925 Priestly Drive > > Suite 101 > > Carlsbad, California 92008 > > > > Phone: 760.930.6100 > > Fax: 760.930.6099 > > > > tjbaiga@SPAMFOIL.charybtech.com > > http://www.charybtech.com/ > > > > > > From: steve cotterman Subject: Plate labeler Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 22:40:27 -0400 Beckman/Sagian makes a micro plate labelling system. It is designed to work with a Sagian CORE system, or as a stand alone unit. It will apply on all four sides of a standard or deep well format plate. It has an integrated bar code reader as well. It is configured for various bar code formats, including '128','39',Codabar,Interleaved 2 of 5, and UPC. It will hold 6000 labels. Steve Cotterman Beckman/Coulter srcotterman@SPAMFOIL.beckman.com From: "SMICKER, Matthew" Subject: Rapidplate Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:08 -0400 I somehow came upon old posts from this discussion group on the web. Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might be used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this for dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. Thanks Matt Smicker HTS Scientist Rhone-Poulenc Rorer From: Patrick Cleveland Subject: re: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:39:47 -0700 Matt, We just posted about suspending the Yttrium beads last week. In case this was the posting you were looking for, here it is again. You can keep Yttrium silicate SPA beads in suspension using the V&P Scientific Tumble Stir Reservoirs with a Magnetic Rotary Tumble Stirrer. These beads are very dense and settle quickly so they require a very vigorous stirring. This Rotary Tumble Stirring System does it. We have a web page with photos and a description of the system see http://www.vp-scientific.com/stir%20disc%20and%20paddle%20troughs.htm Call me if you have any questions. Patrick Cleveland, Ph.D. President V&P Scientific, Inc. 9853 Pacific Heights Blvd., Suite N San Diego, CA 92121 Phone (619) 455-0643, toll free (800) 455-0644 FAX (619) 455-0703 e-mail Check out our catalog and web site at http://www.vp-scientific.com/ From: "Dean Remy" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:03:44 -0400 Greetings Matthew, Saw your message and was trying to determine if you might be referring to Microtiter plate shaker? Let me know. If yes, then I know of a good one manufactured by Grant and available through VWR Scientific Products. Looking forward to your response. Dean Remy NE Area Biotechnology Specialist -----Original Message----- From: SMICKER, Matthew To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:47 PM Subject: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >I somehow came upon old posts from this discussion group on the web. >Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might be >used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this for >dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. > >Thanks > >Matt Smicker >HTS Scientist >Rhone-Poulenc Rorer > From: "Frank Tansley" Subject: Re: plate shaker Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:51:12 +0000 > Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might be > used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this for > dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. > There is a shaker made by DPC in Los Angeles. It's not "thin", but seems to do the job well. It is also RS232 controllable. DPC's number is 800-678-6699. From: MUrban-Piette@SPAMFOIL.gilson.com Subject: Re:Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:59:51 -0500 We had the same issue a while back and spent quite a while looking for the product. You want the Variomag Telesystem (Telesystem refers to the fact that the control unit is remote, and the unit underneath the microplates only contains the magnetic part). Variomag offers thin, microplate stirrers for 6-, 24- and 96-well plates. They're a German company whose US salesperson is at 904-761-6422. It's a great product, but they REALLY need to work on their promotions. There are lots of people out there who want what they've got, but can't find it. I've never seen an ad in any journal or magazine. Last time I checked, they're not on the internet. People find out about them usually by word of mouth. Their marketing manager needs a swift kick in the rear. Variomag 1842-A South Segrave Street South Daytona, FL 32119 Fax 904-760-0960 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Author: Date: 4/6/99 3:51 PM --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- I somehow came upon old posts from this discussion group on the web. Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might be used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this for dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. Thanks Matt Smicker HTS Scientist Rhone-Poulenc Rorer From: "SMICKER, Matthew" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:03:46 -0400 I think the post was from a few months ago. I do not think the product you mention could be easily integrated with a Rapidplate. Thanks > ---------- > From: Patrick Cleveland[SMTP:vp-scientific@SPAMFOIL.worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:39 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Matt, > > We just posted about suspending the Yttrium beads last week. In case > this was the posting you were looking for, here it is again. > > You can keep Yttrium silicate SPA beads in suspension using the V&P > Scientific Tumble Stir Reservoirs with a Magnetic Rotary Tumble > Stirrer. These beads are very dense and settle quickly so they require > a very vigorous stirring. This Rotary Tumble Stirring System does it. > > We have a web page with photos and a description of the system see > http://www.vp-scientific.com/stir%20disc%20and%20paddle%20troughs.htm > > Call me if you have any questions. > > Patrick Cleveland, Ph.D. > President > V&P Scientific, Inc. > 9853 Pacific Heights Blvd., Suite N > San Diego, CA 92121 > > Phone (619) 455-0643, toll free (800) 455-0644 > FAX (619) 455-0703 > e-mail > > Check out our catalog and web site at > http://www.vp-scientific.com/ > From: "Butler, Brent T" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: plate shaker Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:28:50 -0400 I suggest purchasing the Rapidplate with the online fill option. You can place your beads in a stir flask and have the Rapidplate pump a volume of beads to a reservoir (enough to do x number of plates) then purge the reservoir back to its source. > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Tansley [SMTP:frank.tansley@SPAMFOIL.tecan-us.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 3:51 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: plate shaker > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > > Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might > be > > used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this > for > > dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. > > > > There is a shaker made by DPC in Los Angeles. It's not "thin", but > seems to do the job well. It is also RS232 controllable. > > DPC's number is 800-678-6699. > From: "Motley, Joe" Subject: Sample Prep System Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:31:37 -0400 Everyone, We are designing a system to mate up with a Spectroflame ICP with autosampler by Spectro Analytical Instruments. This automated sample preparation system will handle standard 50 cc conical bottom polypropylene screw-cap centrifuge tubes. The system being fully automated need to digest the samples before loading the autosampler, I am looking for input on the best way to dispense the reagents into the samples. The reagents are -- concentrated sulfuric acid and high concentration hydrogen peroxide solution. I must avoid spills or "Boil-over". I appreciate any input Thanks Joe Motley Joseph A. Motley Microdyne Systems, Inc. 414 A Gallimore Dairy Rd. Greensboro NC 27403 (336) 664-0531 Ext. 302 JMotley@SPAMFOIL.MicrodyneSystems.Com From: dxs364@SPAMFOIL.psu.edu Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: plate shaker Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:40:44 -0400 We have tried this but these beads settle too quickly. I would like something that stirs the beads in the online reservoir. BTW, we have had success using the online fill reservoir with another type of SPA bead (that settled much more slowly). Thanks, Matt Smicker HTS Scientist RPR ----- Original Message ----- From: Butler, Brent T To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:28 PM Subject: Lab-Robotics: plate shaker > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > I suggest purchasing the Rapidplate with the online fill option. You can > place your beads in a stir flask and have the Rapidplate pump a volume of > beads to a reservoir (enough to do x number of plates) then purge the > reservoir back to its source. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Frank Tansley [SMTP:frank.tansley@SPAMFOIL.tecan-us.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 3:51 PM > > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > > Subject: Lab-Robotics: plate shaker > > > > --------------------- > > Lab-Robotics > > --------------------- > > > Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might > > be > > > used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this > > for > > > dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. > > > > > > > There is a shaker made by DPC in Los Angeles. It's not "thin", but > > seems to do the job well. It is also RS232 controllable. > > > > DPC's number is 800-678-6699. > > > > From: "Fred Spike, Spike International, Ltd., Wilmington, NC, USA" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:32:13 -0400 Rich, We now stock the black-quartz plates with transparent quartz bottoms. See our web-site, http://www.spike.cc for details. Regards, Fred Spike Spike International. Ltd Phone: 800 734-9408 -----Original Message----- From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On Behalf Of Powel Rich RJ Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 2:40 PM To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Subject: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Do they have 96-well plates black wall with glass bottom? If no, can they be custom made? Rich Powel Zeneca Pharmaceuticals Wilmington, DE (302) 886-5637 > ---------- > From: Fred Spike, Spike International, Ltd., Wilmington, NC, > USA[SMTP:fredspike@SPAMFOIL.worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 11:19 AM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Spike International, Ltd. carries 384-well all glass plates. Would you > like > information about these plates? Contact: Phone-(800)734-9408, > (910)790-3380 Fax-(877)561-6015, (910)790-2023 > > Best regards, > > Scott Spike > > -----Original Message----- > From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On > Behalf Of Dr. Martin Daffertshofer > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 3:26 AM > To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List > Subject: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom > > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Does anyone know of a manufacturer of 384-well plates with glass bottom? > > Thanks > > Martin Daffertshofer > > EVOTEC BioSystems > From: "Fred Spike, Spike International, Ltd., Wilmington, NC, USA" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:34:46 -0400 Dr. Daffertshofer, We now stock quartz 384-well plates with optical quartz bottoms. See our site, http://www.spike.cc for details. Regards, Fred Spike Spike International, Ltd 800 734-9408 -----Original Message----- From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On Behalf Of Dr. Martin Daffertshofer Sent: Thursday, March 18, 1999 3:26 AM To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Subject: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Does anyone know of a manufacturer of 384-well plates with glass bottom? Thanks Martin Daffertshofer EVOTEC BioSystems From: "Thomas J. Baiga" Subject: Vacuum pump and trap system Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:36:45 -0700 We've got a customer that's looking for a really reliable pump and trap system for a filtration system. Vacuum requirements are in the 1.0 x 10(-3) to 1.0 x 10(-4) torr range. They need a cold trap with high capacity as well as a base trap for acid vapors. One more caveat is that the system will be used in production mode 24 hours/day 5-6 days/week. This outside our normal area, so all personal recommendations will be welcome. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas J. Baiga President and Chief Executive Officer Charybdis Technologies, Inc. 5925 Priestly Drive Suite 101 Carlsbad, California 92008 Phone: 760.930.6100 Fax: 760.930.6099 tjbaiga@SPAMFOIL.charybtech.com http://www.charybtech.com/ From: "Manley, Edward M." Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:52:40 -0400 Variomag's website is at http://www.hp-lab.de/englisch/welcome-e.htm -----Original Message----- From: MUrban-Piette@SPAMFOIL.gilson.com [mailto:MUrban-Piette@SPAMFOIL.gilson.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 10:00 AM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- We had the same issue a while back and spent quite a while looking for the product. You want the Variomag Telesystem (Telesystem refers to the fact that the control unit is remote, and the unit underneath the microplates only contains the magnetic part). Variomag offers thin, microplate stirrers for 6-, 24- and 96-well plates. They're a German company whose US salesperson is at 904-761-6422. It's a great product, but they REALLY need to work on their promotions. There are lots of people out there who want what they've got, but can't find it. I've never seen an ad in any journal or magazine. Last time I checked, they're not on the internet. People find out about them usually by word of mouth. Their marketing manager needs a swift kick in the rear. Variomag 1842-A South Segrave Street South Daytona, FL 32119 Fax 904-760-0960 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Lab-Robotics: Rapidplate Author: Date: 4/6/99 3:51 PM --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- I somehow came upon old posts from this discussion group on the web. Someone had asked about a thin, microplate sized stir-plate that might be used with a Rapidplate. I would really like something similar to this for dispensing SPA beads that settle rather quickly. Thanks Matt Smicker HTS Scientist Rhone-Poulenc Rorer From: petek@SPAMFOIL.pharmacop.com (Kieselbach, Pete) Subject: 384 Well Filter Plates Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:58:49 -0400 Other than Whatman/Polyfiltronics, are there any other manufacturers of 384 well filter bottom plates? I am looking for SBS-compatable, polystyrene and polypropylene plates with PVDF, polypropylene or PTFE membranes. TIA! Pete =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Peter Kieselbach Pharmacopeia, Inc CN5350 Princeton, NJ 08543 (609) 452-3788 (phone) (732) 422-0156 (fax) petek@SPAMFOIL.pharmacop.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From: "Miles, Jim" Subject: Tecan 96 plate washer VB code Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:35:28 -0700 Dear Lab Robotics, Has anyone written any Visual Basic code to control the 96PW? If so, I'd like to speak with you about it! Thanks in advance, Jim Miles jmiles@SPAMFOIL.amgen.com Voice 805.447.2836 Toll Free 1.800.9AMGEN9 x72836 Fax 805.447.1251 M/S 29-1-A Amgen Inc. 1 Amgen Center Drive Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1789 From: gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: 384 Well Filter Plates Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:48:51 -0400 Yes Whatman Polyfiltronics are the only source for 384 filter plates. Currently available we offer a polystyrene plate with the following membranes, GF/C (hydorphobic or philic) and melt blown PP with either 25 to 30 um or 10 to 12 um pore size. From: "Samir M. Dandekar" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Tecan 96 plate washer VB code Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:59:20 -0500 On Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:35 PM, Miles, Jim [SMTP:jmiles@SPAMFOIL.amgen.com] wrote: > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Lab Robotics, > > Has anyone written any Visual Basic code to control the 96PW? > If so, I'd like to speak with you about it! > Thanks in advance, > > Jim Miles > jmiles@SPAMFOIL.amgen.com > Voice 805.447.2836 > Toll Free 1.800.9AMGEN9 x72836 > Fax 805.447.1251 > M/S 29-1-A > Amgen Inc. > 1 Amgen Center Drive > Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1789 > Dear Jim, Our company writes software for lab automation. We have written software applications using Visual Basic for a varienty hardware used in labs such as Tecan Genesis pipettors, Titertek instruments, ORCA robot arm, Bar-code scanners, Wallac Counters and a variety of of other hardware. While we have not written an application for a 96PW, I am sure we can assist you in this project or help with any questions. Please feel free to give us a call at your convience to discuss your requirements. Thank you for your time. Samir Dandekar The Technology Integration Group phone 919-461-2357 fax 919-461-2358 http:\\www.ttig.com From: gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: 384-well plates with glass bottom Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:20:23 -0400 Whatman Polyfiltronics supply 384 well glass bottomed plates in clear, black, or white. These plates are available with or without skirts. Tel 800 434 7659 x 214 for more onfo. From: BobKays@SPAMFOIL.aol.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Tecan 96 plate washer VB code Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:59:43 EDT Try Scitec..they have a VB driver for the instrument that we are currently using with our robotics. (ph# 800-998-9109) Bob Kays Sr Research Assoc. R&D/Automation LabCorp From: BLUCK@SPAMFOIL.britbio.co.uk Subject: ATLAS Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:33 +0000 Does anybody have any knowledge/experience of the ATLAS Informatics reformatting software? Gavin Bluck British Biotech Watlington Rd Oxford OX4 5LY Tel: +44 (0)1865 748747 Fax: +44(0)1865 780814 mailto:bluck@SPAMFOIL.britbio.co.uk From: "Dahlen, Jeff" Subject: 384 well plates Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:00:56 -0700 Does anyone know of a reliable source for round-bottom 384 well plates? Jeff Dahlen From: gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: 384 well plates Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:16:38 -0400 Whatman Polyfiltronics has a polypropylene 384 well, 80 uL per well, round vee bottom plate. Part number 7701-5101 gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com From: "Wirth, Amy E" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: 384 well plates Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:59:42 -0400 Corning sells a new polypropylene round bottom 384 well plate. The plates are available either sterile or non-sterile. You may contact Corning technical service for further information at 1-800-492-1110. > ---------- > From: Dahlen, Jeff[SMTP:jdahlen@SPAMFOIL.biosite.com] > Reply To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 11:00 AM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: 384 well plates > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Does anyone know of a reliable source for round-bottom 384 well plates? > > Jeff Dahlen > From: Praveen Sancheti Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: 384 well plates Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:11:40 -0400 I assume you are looking for the polypropylene round bottom 384 well plates. Marsh Scientific (1-800-445-2812)has plates that are standard foot print and have so far fit into most stackers. Praveen Sancheti Millennium Pharmaceuticals Inc. At 08:00 AM 4/14/99 -0700, you wrote: >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Does anyone know of a reliable source for round-bottom 384 well plates? > >Jeff Dahlen > > > From: inouey@SPAMFOIL.yoshitomi.co.jp (Yoshihisa Inoue) Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: 384 well plates Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:40:16 +0900 (JST) As well as Polyfiltronics, March Scientific, and Corning, I know Porvair Sciences ltd. has polystyrene plates. But I am sorry I do not know the reliability. tel:+44-(0)-1932-240255, fax: +44-(0)-1932-254393. Yoshihisa Inoue >> Does anyone know of a reliable source for round-bottom 384 well plates? >> >> Jeff Dahlen From: "david allen" Subject: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:53:30 -0400 anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification systems? we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. anyone have success with similar specs? da From: gledson@SPAMFOIL.whatman.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:53:20 -0400 You might consider using the 24 well, 10 mL per well sample collection plate from Whatman Polyfiltronics Part number 7701-5102. This deepwell microplate conforms to SBS satandard dimensions and can be processed in most liquid managment systems. Call Polyfiltronics 800 434 7659 X 214 for more details. From: "Jeff Schneider" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:07:41 -0500 David, I'm assuming that you're looking for a system to do solid phase extraction (SPE). Beckman has a completely automated system to do SPE...the system will even assemble and disassemble the vacuum manifold for you! The system is 96 plate based and uses standard 3M Empore plates so 96 samples can be processed at a time in just a couple of hours. The high sample volume is not a problem as you can control how the sample is applied to the plate/media. The only issue I see is capacity and that is sample and media dependent so you'll have to try it to see if it will work for your application. Give Beckman a call at (800) 742-2345 and ask for your local robotics representative. Or, leave me a voicemail at the same 800 number. Jeff Schneider Beckman Coulter "david allen" on 04/15/99 07:53:30 AM Please respond to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics Mailing List) cc: (bcc: Jeff Schneider/Remote/BII) Subject: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification systems? we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. anyone have success with similar specs? da From: Sally Dowling Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:27:09 -0500 How does 48 samples a day with up to 3 fractions or 96 samples a day with one eluant sound? Bohdan has commercially available solutions. Please visit our web site. www.bohdan.com look under custom applications, SPE >---------- >From: david allen[SMTP:dr-allen@SPAMFOIL.mediaone.net] >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 7:53 AM >To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org >Subject: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification > >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification >systems? > >we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of >product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, >Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. >anyone have success with similar specs? > >da > > From: Sally Dowling Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:00:47 -0500 by the way, Bohdan's product for high throughpput purification does 8 samples at a time. you can refer to Marion Young, BMS paper from ISLAR 98 for further details as well >---------- >From: david allen[SMTP:dr-allen@SPAMFOIL.mediaone.net] >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 7:53 AM >To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org >Subject: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification > >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification >systems? > >we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of >product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, >Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. >anyone have success with similar specs? > >da > > From: inouey@SPAMFOIL.yoshitomi.co.jp (Yoshihisa Inoue) Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:48:11 +0900 (JST) As a commercial product, we use PE-Sciex/Shimadzu system, and running every 15 minutes with 20 to 250 mg of product, possibly 100 samples a day. Surely we modified the system so much and optimized the conditions, but it was easy. Yoshihisa Inoue >> anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification >> systems? >> >> we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of >> product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, >> Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. >> anyone have success with similar specs? >> >> da From: "David Allen" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:39:56 -0400 > David, > > I'm assuming that you're looking for a system to do solid > phase extraction > (SPE). well not really, I guess I should have been clearer. SPE won't work, we need a better resolution. right now we're using semi-prep LC but, we're open to any other purification technique that will give us similar or better separations. if it were a simple extraction issue, the 96 well format (or 48 for high loading) would be attractive. however, we need the resolving power of LC to clean most of these. da From: "david allen" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:38:29 -0400 > > What are you looking for that the others don't provide? the main problems are throughput and cost. Gilson uses 8 HPLC systems integrated into one computer. that gets the throughput up but costs 8 times as much. Hitachi does pretty much the same but on a factor of 2 instead of 8. Analyticon uses parallel columns on a single pump which reduces purchase price but, all columns must run at the same time and use the same gradient. with diverse samples like we have, that means several columns are un-used (run blanks) and waste solvent which increases operating expense. since each sample is unique, different, and produces a different chromatogram and collection profile, ganged collectors like ISCO are inappropriate. using a multiple flow cell DAD for peak purity (as presented by Shimadzu at PittCon) would be interesting but I haven't seen a commercially available system yet. development time and expense wouldn't be attractive here. da From: Laura Christensen Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: high throughput purification Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:11:31 -0700 It looks as though there are many systems with different capabilities. Hamilton has a system that can process 192 - 1, or 3 mL or 120 - 6 mL cartridges unattended using up to 16 different reagents, of which 5 can be primed to the probe head at one time. This is a standard commercial product with no need to make modifications. If you would like more information call me at 800-648-5950. Laura Christensen Hamilton Instrument Products Manager At 08:53 AM 4/15/99 -0400, you wrote: >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >anyone had any experience with commercial high throughput purification >systems? > >we're looking at running 40 to 100 samples per day with 50 to 200 mg of >product in up to 5 ml of solution. we've looked at Hitachi, Gilson, >Perceptive, Analyticon, and others. all seem to be lacking in some areas. >anyone have success with similar specs? > >da > > Laura Christensen Instrument Products Manager Hamilton Company 4970 Energy Way Reno, NV 89502 775-858-3000, 800-648-5950 EXT. 255, FAX 775-856-7259 e-mail: LMChrist@SPAMFOIL.hamiltoncompany.com Web: www:\\http.hamiltoncompany.com From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com Subject: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:06:54 -0500 Dear Experts, I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank you so much. Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Technology 510-9236793 Fax 510-9233360 From: "Cliff_Olson" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:11:41 -0700 Petar: We have already implemented automated weighing stations as you described using Mettler balances and a robotic arm. The vials are also positioned in tight fitting racks. If you would like more information, please contact me at 818-363-0328 or by email. Regards, Cliff Olson Hudson Control Group -----Original Message----- From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 9:54 AM Subject: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Experts, >I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a >sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into >a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The >challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much >space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on >existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan >hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank >you so much. >Petar Stojadinovic >Chiron Technology >510-9236793 >Fax 510-9233360 > From: "Motley, Joe" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:29:14 -0400 We are a custom system integrator that builds system to our customers needs. We would be happy to discuses your needs and quote you a turnkey solution. Joe Motley Microdyne Systems, Inc. (336) 664-0531 Ext. 302 (336) 664-1232 www.MicrodyneSystems.Com > -----Original Message----- > From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com > [SMTP:Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com] > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 1:07 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Experts, > I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a > sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight > into > a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. > The > challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much > space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done > on > existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a > Bohdan > hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. > Thank > you so much. > Petar Stojadinovic > Chiron Technology > 510-9236793 > Fax 510-9233360 From: "Werner, Chris" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:39:08 -0400 Petar, A little more information regarding your sample container and the rack it works with would help the lab robotics community answer your questions. If the container is very small, odd shaped or is densely packed into a racking system, then a custom solution is probably the only answer. There are techniques used for difficult situations such as vacuum grippers to pick up from the top surface; or grippers that act on an internal surface (assuming cross-contamination is not an issue). Additionally, techniques that force a container into a particular alignment, such as orientation of the container to the gripper axis of motion; or orientation of the container to the robot's axes of motion, can be used in difficult situations. Many of the vendors have a practical approach to do these things. The two you mention, among others, have demonstrated a good capability to customize their equipment in the past. In any event, if you're allowed to share more, non-proprietary information, the community you have posted to can help. Chris Werner Group Leader, Engineering ArQule, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com [mailto:Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 1:07 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Dear Experts, I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank you so much. Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Technology 510-9236793 Fax 510-9233360 From: "Rodney Stockton - SLR Systems" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:53:22 -0700 Petar, SLR Systems is a third party integrator specializing in laboratory automation. We take your operating procedures and requirements and then design and manufacture a turnkey system to satisfy your needs. Since we do not manufacture robotic platforms ourselves, we are free to pick and choose the best platform for your application. Rodney Stockton SLR Systems 2600D N.E. Stapleton Road Vancouver, WA 98661 (360) 693-3312 (360) 693-3323 fax rodney@SPAMFOIL.slrsystems.com www.slrsystems.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 10:06 AM Subject: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Experts, > I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a > sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into > a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The > challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much > space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on > existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan > hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank > you so much. > Petar Stojadinovic > Chiron Technology > 510-9236793 > Fax 510-9233360 > From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics) Subject: Thank you for subscribing to Lab-Robotics Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:04:21 -0500 Thank you for subscribing to the Lab-Robotics mailing list. This message is sent once every 30 days to remind you of the commands which Arrow (our mailing list software) understands. To unsubscribe from the list, send a message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just UNSUBSCRIBE as the subject. To change to digest mode and receive messages once a day send a message with DIGEST-1 as the subject. To receive a digest once a week, send a message with a subject of DIGEST-7. To change from digest mode back to individual messages, send a message with DIGEST-OFF as the subject. For help with these and other Arrow commands, send a message to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with just HELP as the subject. Note: All Arrow commands are a single word (with no spaces) and are sent in the subject of the message to the list. Andy Zaayenga Moderator, The Lab-Robotics Discussion Mailing List mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org web site: https://www.lab-robotics.org --- Age of List in Days 201 Number of Subscribers 616 Total Number of Messages Posted to List 469 Average Number of Messages Posted Per Day 2 From: Martin M Echols Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:17:45 -0400 It depends on the geometry of your containers and the rack. Bohdan picks up tubes from microplates, thats pretty small tubes in a pretty tight array. Are you sure they don't have what you need? /me Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com wrote: > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Experts, > I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a > sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into > a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The > challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much > space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on > existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan > hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank > you so much. > Petar Stojadinovic > Chiron Technology > 510-9236793 > Fax 510-9233360 Petar, Are you looking for a complete weighing station, or a device to automate the handling of your sample containers? What kind of containers are they? Bill Lindley LEAP Technologies 800 229-8814 Hello all, Just joined the newsgroup. A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously absent... I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded folk! TIA. Sanjaya N. Joshi Bioinstrument division Userspace Corporation From: cbachman@SPAMFOIL.webtv.net (c bachman) Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Tia I am interested as well....you can contact me if you like. Cheryl Bachman, Executive Recruiter BioTechnology Force, International (425) 806-0215 phone 806-8526 fax cbachman@SPAMFOIL.webtv.net email From: "Luche, Michele" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:18:00 -0700 Hi, Count me in for a Seattle chapter!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Sanjaya N. Joshi [SMTP:sanjay@SPAMFOIL.bioinstrument.com] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:38 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? > > Hello all, > > Just joined the newsgroup. > A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously absent... > I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded folk! > > TIA. > > Sanjaya N. Joshi > Bioinstrument division > Userspace Corporation > > Count me in. Rodney Stockton SLR Systems 2600D N.E. Stapleton Vancouver, WA 98661 360 693-3312 rodney@SPAMFOIL.slrsystems.com www.slrsystems.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanjaya N. Joshi To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 1:37 PM Subject: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Hello all, Just joined the newsgroup. A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously absent... I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded folk! TIA. Sanjaya N. Joshi Bioinstrument division Userspace Corporation From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:52:03 -0700 Hi Sanjaya, We have a Bay Area usergroup and are very interested in enthusiast people as yourself. Please contact me. 5109236793. Regards, Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Bay Area Chair. "Sanjaya N. Joshi" wrote: > Hello all, > > Just joined the newsgroup. > A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously absent... > I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded folk! > > TIA. > Sanjaya N. Joshi > Bioinstrument division > Userspace Corporation > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Hello > all, > size=2> > Just > joined the newsgroup. > size=2> face=Arial size=2>A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously > absent... > size=2> face=Arial size=2>I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded > folk! > > size=2>TIA. > Sanjaya N. Joshi Bioinstrument division Userspace > Corporation From: md@SPAMFOIL.molecumetics.com (Mark Deiparine) Subject: Re:Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:39:55 -0700 I would also be interested in a NW chapter. Feel free to contact me with ideas. Thanks, Mark Deiparine Research Automation Engineer Molecumetics, Ltd. 425.990.1370 From: Susan Vigilante Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Northwest Chapter? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:48:14 -0700 Also we at Argonaut would help with this too! -----Original Message----- From: Sanjaya N. Joshi [mailto:sanjay@SPAMFOIL.bioinstrument.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 4:38 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics: NorthWest Chapter? Hello all, Just joined the newsgroup. A NorthWest chapter is conspicuously absent... I am willing to start one, if I can find like-minded folk! TIA. Sanjaya N. Joshi Bioinstrument division Userspace Corporation From: Henry M Holava Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:06:14 -0400 Petar, We have two Zymark robotics stations that do what I think you want to do. We load racks of pre weighed bar coded vials (which we purchase with tare weight files) which contain samples. The zymark picks the vial from the rack, reads the vial bar code, places a vial in a balance, records the gross weight, subtracts the tare (from a file) and up dates our inventory with correct amount. The Zymark also will cap the vial and print the compound ID on the vial cap. In our system we alternate between two balance, while one is being loaded with a vial the other balance has time to comes to equilibrium for recording accurate weights to our inventory data base. The Zymarks are work horses. We run them 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Henry Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com wrote: > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Experts, > I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a > sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into > a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The > challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much > space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on > existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan > hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank > you so much. > Petar Stojadinovic > Chiron Technology > 510-9236793 > Fax 510-9233360 From: Chip Leveille Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:22:10 -0400 Petar, There was a poster presented at ISLAR 1998 by Glaxo Wellcome concerning automated weightings. They used a Zymark BenchMate with a simple modification to handle a wide range of container sizes. It may be able to handle what you are looking for. A copy of the poster could be obtained through the ISLAR web site. Chip -----Original Message----- From: Henry M Holava [mailto:holavah@SPAMFOIL.bms.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:06 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics: Automated Weigher Needed --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Petar, We have two Zymark robotics stations that do what I think you want to do. We load racks of pre weighed bar coded vials (which we purchase with tare weight files) which contain samples. The zymark picks the vial from the rack, reads the vial bar code, places a vial in a balance, records the gross weight, subtracts the tare (from a file) and up dates our inventory with correct amount. The Zymark also will cap the vial and print the compound ID on the vial cap. In our system we alternate between two balance, while one is being loaded with a vial the other balance has time to comes to equilibrium for recording accurate weights to our inventory data base. The Zymarks are work horses. We run them 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Henry Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com wrote: > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Dear Experts, > I am looking for an automated weigher station that would pick up a > sample container out of a rack into a balance and record the weight into > a spread sheet and subtract off the weight of the sample container. The > challenge is to pick up my sample containers since there is not much > space to pull it out of the rack. Modifications would need to be done on > existing systems I've seen such as an existing Zymark hand, or a Bohdan > hand. If you know any that could do this please let me know soon. Thank > you so much. > Petar Stojadinovic > Chiron Technology > 510-9236793 > Fax 510-9233360 From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:47:44 -0700 Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and products available for us to use. In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use many different types of software for automation control, development, implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and tools. If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you my results of this study. Thank you so much. If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank you and kindest regards; Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Technologies, Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator 510-9236793 Fax: 510-9233360. From: Laboratory Robotics Interest Group Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Northwest Chapter? Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:58:34 -0400 If you in the NorthWest area feel that there is enough support for a regional chapter, let me know. We can set up a formation committee mailing list similar to this discussion list through which you can communicate and attract more support. That is what we have done with the SouthEast, San Diego, Bay Area, and Europe chapters. Andy Zaayenga Secretary, The Laboratory Robotics Interest Group LRIG Home & Mid Atlantic Chapter mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org web site: https://www.lab-robotics.org From: "Raymond Reilly" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:16:34 -0400 CRS offers a very good software package for automated laboratory systems called POLARA. As you requested we will forward information to you under separate cover. Regards, Ray Reilly Eastern Regional Manager CRS Automation Solutions -----Original Message----- From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:00 PM Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, >I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and >products available for us to use. >In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for >computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use >many different types of software for automation control, development, >implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and >tools. >If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and >why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you >my results of this study. Thank you so much. >If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which >software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank >you and kindest regards; >Petar Stojadinovic >Chiron Technologies, >Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator >510-9236793 >Fax: 510-9233360. > > From: "Pat Deesen" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:21:33 -0400 Dear Peter, Spotfire, Inc. provides data visualization software called Spotfire Pro which is used in HTS groups to access and analyze their large databases of information. The software allows primary and secondary screening groups to view both biological and chemical data in multiple dimensions to determine structure activity relationships and make faster decisions on which compounds need further testing. Spotfire Pro can also be used as a quality control tool to view the data coming off the robots. This is a very short synopsis. Please let me know if you would like more details. Thanks, Pat Deesen Pat Deesen Office: 201-930-0155 Spotfire, Inc. Fax: 201-930-9586 patd@SPAMFOIL.spotfire.com Mobile: 201-417-6415 -----Original Message----- From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On Behalf Of Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:48 PM To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and products available for us to use. In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use many different types of software for automation control, development, implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and tools. If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you my results of this study. Thank you so much. If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank you and kindest regards; Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Technologies, Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator 510-9236793 Fax: 510-9233360. From: Jeff_Busnach@SPAMFOIL.Millipore.com Subject: Laboratory Automation References Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:59:14 -0400 I have come across the following reference: Automation Technologies for Genome Characterization, ed. Tony J. Beugelsdijk I was thinking of picking up a copy, but I am concerned with the July 1997 copyright. Has anyone found this book to be useful? Is the information current enough? Does anyone know of a more current reference that covers the major Genome Centers,imaging technology, lab on a chip, and capillary electrophoresis? Any reviews or suggestions for "Must Have" type references would be appreciated. Dear Petar, EMAX has pioneered the development and deployment of a new generation of software-driven solutions known as Research Execution Systems (RES) that speed new product discovery, enhance researcher productivity and improve supply chain efficiencies. The OPTIMA product suite integrates the supply, inventory management, and disposition of all commercially procured reagents and proprietary research compounds into one coherent materials management process. Through web-based user environments, all scientists and operations support staff across multiple sites can easily access and use the scientific, business, logistical, and regulatory information and software tools they need to perform more effectively. Integration with supply chain providers, compound preparation robotics, high throughput screening systems, internal stockrooms, compound preparation centers, and backbone ERP systems, speeds the material acquisition and automated chemistry processes. OPTIMA-based solutions dramatically improve the management of large, complex, dynamic and valuable inventories of discrete chemical and biological substances, typically residing in millions of small containers. In this way, OPTIMA helps to optimize researcher productivity, avert operational bottlenecks and effectively manage valuable research assets. Please let me know if you need more info. I am very interested in your study results. Karen Rakoczy EMAX Solution Partners Visit EMAX on the web! http://www.emax.com 610-325-3781 x223 fax - 610-325-3782 e-mail - karen.rakoczy@SPAMFOIL.emax.com -----Original Message----- From: Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com [SMTP:Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:48 PM To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and products available for us to use. In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use many different types of software for automation control, development, implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and tools. If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you my results of this study. Thank you so much. If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank you and kindest regards; Petar Stojadinovic Chiron Technologies, Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator 510-9236793 Fax: 510-9233360. From: "Dusan Toman" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:04:26 +0200 Dear Petar, DIMENSION 5 provides graphic software for rapid visual analysis of large multidimensional data sets. The software is called DataMiner 3D and allows user to develope and analyze data models in true 3D space. If needed more information please let me know, or contact SciBiz International, our US distributor. Thanks, Dusan Toman DIMENSION 5 Hurbanova 36 SK-920 01 Hlohovec Slovakia tel : +421 905 409604 fax : +421 804 7421223 dusan@SPAMFOIL.dimension5.sk www.dimension5.sk SciBiz International Mr. Charlie dstries 56 Henning Drive Orchard Park, NY 14127 U.S.A. tel: 716-662-4121 fax: 716-662-4175 email: scibiz@SPAMFOIL.buffnet.net >-----Original Message----- >From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On >Behalf Of Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:48 PM >To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List >Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software > > >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, >I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and >products available for us to use. >In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for >computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use >many different types of software for automation control, development, >implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages >and >tools. >If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use >and >why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you >my results of this study. Thank you so much. >If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which >software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank >you and kindest regards; >Petar Stojadinovic >Chiron Technologies, >Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator >510-9236793 >Fax: 510-9233360 From: Roger McIntosh Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:06:42 +0100 Petar, Check out this link for a wealth of information on Perl related software for gene sequencing and other Bio-informatics: http://bio.perl.org/ Note that Lincoln Stein, who is very active in the field of Informatics for the Human Genome Project, has published a great deal of information (and code) on this subject. He has a current article in The Perl Journal (Issue 13) which details use of the "ACEDB" database (A. C. Elegans DataBase). In many ways Perl is an ideal development system for manipulating gene sequence data. In addition, my group at Cavro Scientific Instruments is developing a very ambitious robotics software package for use in biological and chemistry labs. This software runs on Windows NT and incorporates Microsoft's VBA as a development language (full VBA, NOT VB Script). I believe this will represent one of the most powerful and modern 32-bit Windows robotic software development systems to date when released later this year (it is essentially a full, visual programmer's development system specifically designed for robotic control). It is written for Cavro/Tecan MSP/RSP robotic systems, but the architecture abstracts the hardware layer to a large extent. Roger McIntosh Software Engineering Manager, Cavro Scientific Instruments At 03:47 PM 4/20/99 -0700, you wrote: >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, >I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and >products available for us to use. >In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for >computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use >many different types of software for automation control, development, >implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and >tools. >If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and >why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you >my results of this study. Thank you so much. >If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which >software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank >you and kindest regards; >Petar Stojadinovic >Chiron Technologies, >Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator >510-9236793 >Fax: 510-9233360. > From: David Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:16:17 -0400 Roger, I read your posting on Perl robotic software with interest. When you say 'robotic control' do you mean control of robot at a system level or at the machine level? A robot is an integration of mechanics, electronics and software all inter-dependent and it would be difficult to write software to control a robot at low levels without being involved in the machine design so I presume you mean some higher level. We make robots i.e. robot arms. Our background is in industrial applications, mostly production. We are only recently applying our robots to lab applications. Such devices as Hamilton liquid handlers (e.g. 2200) and the Tecan are referred to as robots so we refer to our machines as transport robots. Their purpose is to move samples from instrument to instrument. I am familiar with Tecan but not the Cavro/Tecan. Is this a transport robot? If there is no clash of products here we would be very interested in some collaboration. Regards, David Sands, ST Robotics Roger McIntosh wrote: > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Petar, > Check out this link for a wealth of information on Perl related software > for gene sequencing and other Bio-informatics: > http://bio.perl.org/ > Note that Lincoln Stein, who is very active in the field of Informatics for > the Human Genome Project, has published a great deal of information (and > code) on this subject. He has a current article in The Perl Journal (Issue > 13) which details use of the "ACEDB" database (A. C. Elegans DataBase). In > many ways Perl is an ideal development system for manipulating gene > sequence data. > In addition, my group at Cavro Scientific Instruments is developing a very > ambitious robotics software package for use in biological and chemistry > labs. This software runs on Windows NT and incorporates Microsoft's VBA as > a development language (full VBA, NOT VB Script). I believe this will > represent one of the most powerful and modern 32-bit Windows robotic > software development systems to date when released later this year (it is > essentially a full, visual programmer's development system specifically > designed for robotic control). It is written for Cavro/Tecan MSP/RSP > robotic systems, but the architecture abstracts the hardware layer to a > large extent. > Roger McIntosh > Software Engineering Manager, > Cavro Scientific Instruments > > At 03:47 PM 4/20/99 -0700, you wrote: > >--------------------- > >Lab-Robotics > >--------------------- > >Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, > >I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and > >products available for us to use. > >In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for > >computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use > >many different types of software for automation control, development, > >implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages and > >tools. > >If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use and > >why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you > >my results of this study. Thank you so much. > >If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which > >software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank > >you and kindest regards; > >Petar Stojadinovic > >Chiron Technologies, > >Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator > >510-9236793 > >Fax: 510-9233360. > > -- ________________________________________________________ David N. Sands, ST Robotics International Website: http://www.strobotics.com STANDARD DEVIATION: a sexual activity formerly considered perverted but now universally practiced. From: Laboratory Robotics Interest Group Subject: Lab-Robotics: Northwest Chapter? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:16:56 -0400 A NorthWest Chapter Formation Committee is being empaneled to determine if there is enough interest to start a LRIG NorthWest Chapter. To broadcast a message to all chapter formation committee members of the LRIG NorthWest, send an email to northwest@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org. To join the chapter formation committee of the LRIG NorthWest, send an email to northwest@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org with "Subscribe" (no quotes) in the subject line. Andy Zaayenga Secretary, The Laboratory Robotics Interest Group LRIG Home & Mid Atlantic Chapter mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org web site: https://www.lab-robotics.org From: "Charlie d'Estries" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Software Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:39:58 -0400 Petar, I've noticed many people have contacted you concerning your query about software. So as not to overwhelm you with more information, if you have an interest in a new and powerful 3D datamining tool please contact me at scibiz@SPAMFOIL.buffnet.net, or call me at 716-662-4121. Enjoy your day. Charlie d'Estries -----Original Message----- From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org] On Behalf Of Dusan Toman Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:04 PM To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Dear Petar, DIMENSION 5 provides graphic software for rapid visual analysis of large multidimensional data sets. The software is called DataMiner 3D and allows user to develope and analyze data models in true 3D space. If needed more information please let me know, or contact SciBiz International, our US distributor. Thanks, Dusan Toman DIMENSION 5 Hurbanova 36 SK-920 01 Hlohovec Slovakia tel : +421 905 409604 fax : +421 804 7421223 dusan@SPAMFOIL.dimension5.sk www.dimension5.sk SciBiz International Mr. Charlie d'Estries 56 Henning Drive Orchard Park, NY 14127 U.S.A. tel: 716-662-4121 fax: 716-662-4175 email: scibiz@SPAMFOIL.buffnet.net >-----Original Message----- >From: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org [mailto:discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org]On >Behalf Of Petar_Stojadinovic@SPAMFOIL.cc.chiron.com >Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:48 PM >To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List >Subject: Lab-Robotics: Software > > >--------------------- >Lab-Robotics >--------------------- >Dear Software users,developers for the Life Science Industry, >I am gathering information about our experiences with certain software and >products available for us to use. >In particular there are many robotic schedulers, LIMS, Databases, tools for >computational Bio and Chem, informatics ... Also of most importance we use >many different types of software for automation control, development, >implementation, integrated development environments, programming languages >and >tools. >If would be so kind to please send me feedback on which you prefer to use >and >why from a users and developers stand point. As a thank you, I will send you >my results of this study. Thank you so much. >If you are a vendor and get this email please feel free to send us which >software products you have and which types of users are most content. Thank >you and kindest regards; >Petar Stojadinovic >Chiron Technologies, >Senior Systems Analyst and Projects Cordinator >510-9236793 >Fax: 510-9233360 From: "Fletcher, Paul" Subject: Used Bar-Code labelers Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:17:13 -0400 Hello Everyone, I am in the market for a used bar-code labeler, which can be used for 96 or 384 well microtiter plates. This could be a stand alone labeler or a print and apply labeler. Does anyone have any suggestions for used equipment suppliers or do you have one for sale? Regards, Paul W. Fletcher DGI BioTechnologies Edison, NJ 08818 Phone: 732-287-2034 Fax: 732-287-1486 From: "Napolitano, Christopher" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:35:28 -0400 Hi Paul, You may want to check with Zymark. They sell a unit called the Presto Labeler. The unit can be used as a stand alone unit with someone feeding it plates or integrated on a robotic system. The labeler is also very reliable (i.e. very little labeling failures). The software that is supplied with the unit allows you three fields to print on. One is used for the barcode while the others can be used for text. I know that you are in the market for a used system, but this system (I think) is relatively new. You may want to contact Zymark and ask them if they have any used demo models, or the equivalent. If you have any questions, please respond... Sincerely, Chris Napolitano Merck Research Laboratories Rahway, NJ 07076 > ---------- > From: Fletcher, Paul[SMTP:pwfletcher@SPAMFOIL.dgibt.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:17 AM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Hello Everyone, > > I am in the market for a used bar-code labeler, which can be used for 96 > or > 384 well microtiter plates. This could be a stand alone labeler or a > print > and apply labeler. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for used equipment suppliers or do you > have > one for sale? > > Regards, > > Paul W. Fletcher > DGI BioTechnologies > Edison, NJ 08818 > Phone: 732-287-2034 > Fax: 732-287-1486 > From: "Baker, Graham R" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labellers Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:47:12 +0100 --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Hi Paul, We've just got a Presto labeller and its pretty good. Its supplied with 3 possible software options. The stand-alone application, the PCS integrated version (if you have a larger Zymark system) and an OCX module for adding to visual basic. I'm using the latter which makes integration a breeze. Good luck Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: Napolitano, Christopher [SMTP:christopher_napolitano@SPAMFOIL.merck.com] > Sent: 26 April 1999 20:35 > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Hi Paul, > > You may want to check with Zymark. They sell a unit called the Presto > Labeler. The unit can be used as a stand alone unit with someone feeding > it > plates or integrated on a robotic system. The labeler is also very > reliable > (i.e. very little labeling failures). The software that is supplied with > the unit allows you three fields to print on. One is used for the barcode > while the others can be used for text. > > I know that you are in the market for a used system, but this system (I > think) is relatively new. You may want to contact Zymark and ask them if > they have any used demo models, or the equivalent. > > If you have any questions, please respond... > > Sincerely, > > Chris Napolitano > Merck Research Laboratories > Rahway, NJ 07076 > > > ---------- > > From: Fletcher, Paul[SMTP:pwfletcher@SPAMFOIL.dgibt.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:17 AM > > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers > > > > --------------------- > > Lab-Robotics > > --------------------- > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am in the market for a used bar-code labeler, which can be used for 96 > > or > > 384 well microtiter plates. This could be a stand alone labeler or a > > print > > and apply labeler. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for used equipment suppliers or do you > > have > > one for sale? > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul W. Fletcher > > DGI BioTechnologies > > Edison, NJ 08818 > > Phone: 732-287-2034 > > Fax: 732-287-1486 > > From: "Monnet, Pierre" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:20:05 -0400 Paul, The kind of instrument you are looking for is usually less than two years old (if not custom), and you may have a hard time to find used one. You may look at these Web Sites : http://www.aironline.com/index.htm http://www.labx.com/v2/labauction/auctionads.cfm http://www.going-going-sold.com/GGS/ggshome.nsf/home Otherwise, there are few commercially available systems : - Beckman-Coulter Sagian : Print & Apply, which is the less expensive, very flexible, reliable (Intermec printer), stand alone or integrated in an automated system, with BC checking after applied. - Zymark Presto Labeler, as Christopher mentioned, which is more expensive, but with a better cosmetic look. The version I know has no BC checking after applied. - Scitec Print & Apply which is build by Sagian. - Cyberlab Print & Apply, which is integrated into their liquid handler. - Cartesian Technology, which is a very high throughput labeler, very reliable. - Tomtec has one (new) with a 300 MTP storage capacity, but I never tested it. Cordialement, Pierre. ********************************************************** Pierre B. Monnet Research Automation Rh獼e-Poulenc Ag Company PO Box 12014 2 TW Alexander drive Research Triangle Park, North Carolina 27709 USA Tel : (919) 549 2225 Fax : (919) 549 0054 e-mail : PMonnet@SPAMFOIL.rp-agro.com ********************************************************** > ---------- > From: Napolitano, > Christopher[SMTP:christopher_napolitano@SPAMFOIL.merck.com] > Reply To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 3:35 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Hi Paul, > > You may want to check with Zymark. They sell a unit called the Presto > Labeler. The unit can be used as a stand alone unit with someone > feeding it > plates or integrated on a robotic system. The labeler is also very > reliable > (i.e. very little labeling failures). The software that is supplied > with > the unit allows you three fields to print on. One is used for the > barcode > while the others can be used for text. > > I know that you are in the market for a used system, but this system > (I > think) is relatively new. You may want to contact Zymark and ask them > if > they have any used demo models, or the equivalent. > > If you have any questions, please respond... > > Sincerely, > > Chris Napolitano > Merck Research Laboratories > Rahway, NJ 07076 > > > ---------- > > From: Fletcher, Paul[SMTP:pwfletcher@SPAMFOIL.dgibt.com] > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 11:17 AM > > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers > > > > --------------------- > > Lab-Robotics > > --------------------- > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am in the market for a used bar-code labeler, which can be used > for 96 > > or > > 384 well microtiter plates. This could be a stand alone labeler or > a > > print > > and apply labeler. > > > > Does anyone have any suggestions for used equipment suppliers or do > you > > have > > one for sale? > > > > Regards, > > > > Paul W. Fletcher > > DGI BioTechnologies > > Edison, NJ 08818 > > Phone: 732-287-2034 > > Fax: 732-287-1486 > > > From: "Li, Chuck" Subject: Zymark Presto labeler Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:53:41 -0700 Graham and others, When you integrated the Presto labeler to your automated system using the OCX provided by Zymark, did you have trouble in controlling the comm ports externally? Were you able to use comm port numbers higher than 4? We found the OCX to be problematic if we were to integrate more than one labeler on one computer. It seems the OCX sets the comm port number in a "presto.ini" file under \Windows\systems, this creates a problem when we have two labelers on the system accessing the same file. Thanks for your inputs. Chuck Li ________________________________ Research Automation Technologies Amgen Inc. M/S 29-1-A One Amgen Center Drive Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1789 Tel: 805.447.1474 Fax: 805.447.1251 or 805.480.1333 From: "Lubo G Stavenik" Subject: Re: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:12:55 -0800 Hi Paul, Beckman Coulter has Microplate Print & Apply on the market for a while. It can be integrated on Sagian Core System or as a stand alone workstation. The high-resolution printer can apply labels on all four sides of the plate and a special polyester material is excellent for a long term storage. I will fax you information on it. Lubo Stavenik Automation Consultant Beckman Coulter "Fletcher, Paul" on 04/26/99 07:17:13 AM Please respond to discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org (Lab-Robotics Mailing List) cc: (bcc: Lubo G Stavenik/SALES/BII) Subject: Lab-Robotics: Used Bar-Code labelers --------------------- Lab-Robotics --------------------- Hello Everyone, I am in the market for a used bar-code labeler, which can be used for 96 or 384 well microtiter plates. This could be a stand alone labeler or a print and apply labeler. Does anyone have any suggestions for used equipment suppliers or do you have one for sale? Regards, Paul W. Fletcher DGI BioTechnologies Edison, NJ 08818 Phone: 732-287-2034 Fax: 732-287-1486 From: "Baker, Graham R" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Zymark Presto labeller Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:43:01 +0100 Dear Chuck We are just using the 1 printer on the PC and therefore the Comm port defined in Presto.ini doesn't change. I haven't tried a Comm port greater than 4 yet but I'll give it a go and report back Regards Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: Li, Chuck [SMTP:chuckl@SPAMFOIL.amgen.com] > Sent: 27 April 1999 19:54 > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Zymark Presto labeler > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Graham and others, > > When you integrated the Presto labeler to your automated system using the > OCX provided by Zymark, did you have trouble in controlling the comm ports > externally? Were you able to use comm port numbers higher than 4? We > found > the OCX to be problematic if we were to integrate more than one labeler on > one computer. It seems the OCX sets the comm port number in a > "presto.ini" > file under \Windows\systems, this creates a problem when we have two > labelers on the system accessing the same file. > > Thanks for your inputs. > > > Chuck Li > ________________________________ > Research Automation Technologies > Amgen Inc. > M/S 29-1-A > One Amgen Center Drive > Thousand Oaks, CA 91320-1789 > > Tel: 805.447.1474 > Fax: 805.447.1251 or 805.480.1333 From: "Goering, Matt" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:26:06 -0700 Matt, With the regimen you describe about how often do you need to replace the multidrop tubing? Is "heavy usage" more than 100 plates per day? Thanks, Matt Goering > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Smicker [SMTP:dxs364@SPAMFOIL.psu.edu] > Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 6:38 PM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > We use a multidrop to dispense 100% DMSO regularly (daily, heavy use) to > dilute compound microplates (90ul 100% DMSO). We had some trouble with > tubing lifetime before we found the proper way to clean up. It is best to > either empty the tubing and let it sit without rinsing overnight, or to > rinse with water, then empty and let it sit overnight. At first we just > rinsed with water and let the water sit in the tubing overnight. This can > expand the tubing to the point where it has to be replaced (this might be > due to water being picked up by DMSO which has been absorbed into the > plastic tubing). > > I have no experience with the deepwell version of the multidrop but the > standard microplate model is very reliable and low maintenance (except for > changing tubing, which also requires calibration). > > Matt Smicker > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Zaayenga > To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List > Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 5:19 PM > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO > > > >--------------------- > >Lab-Robotics > >--------------------- > >Is anyone using a Multidrop to dispense 100% DMSO regularly? > >What is your experience with life of the tubing? Do you wash > >the tubing after each use? How often do you use the unit, and > >what volumes are you dispensing? We are looking at the deepwell > >version. Any feedback on that model? Thanks. > > > >Andy Zaayenga > >TekCel Corporation > >Mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.tekcel.com > >Web Site: http://tekcel.com > > > > > > From: "SMICKER, Matthew" Subject: RE: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:31:15 -0400 Matt, At least 100 plates a day. We have gone as long as 3+ months with 100-1200 plates a day. It is one of the least problematic liquids we dispense with a Multidrop (with a particular SPA bead being the worst). We usually replace the tubing before it becomes necessary (just for precaution). Matt Smicker > ---------- > From: Goering, Matt[SMTP:MGoering@SPAMFOIL.ligand.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:26 AM > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO > > --------------------- > Lab-Robotics > --------------------- > Matt, > > With the regimen you describe about how often do you need to replace the > multidrop tubing? Is "heavy usage" more than 100 plates per day? > > Thanks, > > Matt Goering > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Smicker [SMTP:dxs364@SPAMFOIL.psu.edu] > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 1999 6:38 PM > > To: discussion@SPAMFOIL.lab-robotics.org > > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO > > > > --------------------- > > Lab-Robotics > > --------------------- > > We use a multidrop to dispense 100% DMSO regularly (daily, heavy use) to > > dilute compound microplates (90ul 100% DMSO). We had some trouble with > > tubing lifetime before we found the proper way to clean up. It is best > to > > either empty the tubing and let it sit without rinsing overnight, or to > > rinse with water, then empty and let it sit overnight. At first we just > > rinsed with water and let the water sit in the tubing overnight. This > can > > expand the tubing to the point where it has to be replaced (this might > be > > due to water being picked up by DMSO which has been absorbed into the > > plastic tubing). > > > > I have no experience with the deepwell version of the multidrop but the > > standard microplate model is very reliable and low maintenance (except > for > > changing tubing, which also requires calibration). > > > > Matt Smicker > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy Zaayenga > > To: Lab-Robotics Mailing List > > Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 5:19 PM > > Subject: Lab-Robotics: Multidrop & DMSO > > > > > > >--------------------- > > >Lab-Robotics > > >--------------------- > > >Is anyone using a Multidrop to dispense 100% DMSO regularly? > > >What is your experience with life of the tubing? Do you wash > > >the tubing after each use? How often do you use the unit, and > > >what volumes are you dispensing? We are looking at the deepwell > > >version. Any feedback on that model? Thanks. > > > > > >Andy Zaayenga > > >TekCel Corporation > > >Mailto:andy.zaayenga@SPAMFOIL.tekcel.com > > >Web Site: http://tekcel.com > > > > > > > > > > If the tubing is "expanding" overnight, it is being dissolved. If it is being dissolved, it is contaminating your samples. I am not familiar with the Multidrop, so I don't know what tubing it uses, but we offer fluoropolymer tubing that definitly will not swell (expand) in DMSO. Please call me at 800 734-9408 if you would like information. Regards, Fred Spike Fred Spike, President Spike International, Ltd PO Box 15410 Wilmington, NC 28408 USA fred@SPAMFOIL.spike.cc www.spike.cc Phone: (800) 734-9408 Toll-free Fax: (877) 561-6015 >From outside the US: Phone: (910) 790-3380 Fax: (910) 790-2023